Many new riders this summer. - Page 4

phydeaux · 08-08-2007, 08:24 PM

Don't start being reasonable and logical now, dammit!

phoenixar · 05-29-2008, 04:53 AM

I'm taking the MSF course this weekend, so I am one of the newbies you guys are talking about. Is there anything about motorcycling culture that you "veterans" want to preserve here?

I ask because I was a cross country mountain-biker before it was popular. When I first started, there were few riders on the trails, and it didn't take long for me to learn that mountain bikers really look out for one another one the trails. Anytime I stopped on the trails, other mountain bikers would ask me if everythings 'ok' or 'need tools' before moving on. When the trails started to get more popular, I think that part of the mountain biking comradery was lost; fellow bikers would often times not even acknowledge that you're there.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't want to be the kind of newbie that
ignores the motorcycling mores that weave the fabric of motorcycling in the West.

becks66 · 08-22-2008, 06:42 PM

phoenixar, you have the right attitude. I would recommend the MSF course to anyone! It's one thing to learn how to ride, but it's another entirely to learn how to ride properly. That is not to say that the basic course is all anyone needs because as sportbike riders there is another set of lessons that most of us need to learn. I have been riding now for 24 years and I would be the first to tell you that I still have a lot to learn (and I even helped instruct the basic MSF course). Depending on the type of riding that you do there is a skillset and conditions that are associated with it. Riding on the street and in traffic demands a certain skillset, racing or track riding demands another, and stunting yet another (although I hope the conditions are not on a public road). I am always saddened to hear about the death or the mangling of a motorcyclist (for that matter a human being... no matter how stupid I think that they may have been). There are going to be a lot of new riders because of gas prices and the economy, I feel that I should do as much as I can to help as many as I can. [insert sensitive tree hugging smiley here] The reason? So that I can sleep at night... if I know that I have done a positive in regard to the transportation and sport that I love then I am good.

08-08-2007, 08:24 PM	#31
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08-22-2008, 06:42 PM	#33
becks66 Spammer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Rancho San Diego Bikes: '06 Triumph Daytona 675 Age: 42 Posts: 9 iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 0 (10)	phoenixar, you have the right attitude. I would recommend the MSF course to anyone! It's one thing to learn how to ride, but it's another entirely to learn how to ride properly. That is not to say that the basic course is all anyone needs because as sportbike riders there is another set of lessons that most of us need to learn. I have been riding now for 24 years and I would be the first to tell you that I still have a lot to learn (and I even helped instruct the basic MSF course). Depending on the type of riding that you do there is a skillset and conditions that are associated with it. Riding on the street and in traffic demands a certain skillset, racing or track riding demands another, and stunting yet another (although I hope the conditions are not on a public road). I am always saddened to hear about the death or the mangling of a motorcyclist (for that matter a human being... no matter how stupid I think that they may have been). There are going to be a lot of new riders because of gas prices and the economy, I feel that I should do as much as I can to help as many as I can. [insert sensitive tree hugging smiley here] The reason? So that I can sleep at night... if I know that I have done a positive in regard to the transportation and sport that I love then I am good. __________________ You must be fast, because you were haulin' ass when I passed you!

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05-29-2008, 04:53 AM	#32
phoenixar Spammer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5 iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 0 (10)	I'm taking the MSF course this weekend, so I am one of the newbies you guys are talking about. Is there anything about motorcycling culture that you "veterans" want to preserve here? I ask because I was a cross country mountain-biker before it was popular. When I first started, there were few riders on the trails, and it didn't take long for me to learn that mountain bikers really look out for one another one the trails. Anytime I stopped on the trails, other mountain bikers would ask me if everythings 'ok' or 'need tools' before moving on. When the trails started to get more popular, I think that part of the mountain biking comradery was lost; fellow bikers would often times not even acknowledge that you're there. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't want to be the kind of newbie that ignores the motorcycling mores that weave the fabric of motorcycling in the West.