Riding question for you pros

SPACEBOY · 02-05-2007, 09:54 PM

I was recently asked a question that I couldn't answer because I don't know exactly what it is I do, I just do it and never stopped to think about what it was I did.
So here is the question which seems simple enough.

When at full lean in a corner and you need to correct to tighten up your line do you steer away from the turn (counter steer like you do to initialise the turn) or do you steer into the turn?
For example if you are in a right hand turn and need to tighten your line, are you turning the bars left (away from the direction you are turning) or to the right, with the direction of the turn?

I've never really stopped to think about what inputs I am giving the bars when riding so I was not 100% sure on the answer.

02-05-2007, 10:16 PM

I'm not a pro(I don't get the $ like the real guys do) so everything below is technically worthless

There are several ways, depending on the situation

Let off the throttle a little
push with your inside foot
pull with your outside knee
look through the turn more with your head
relax your inside shoulder
add a little countersteer
trail the brakes a little

It all really depends on your riding style and the exact situation...

firehawk · 02-05-2007, 10:40 PM

Trail the brakes a little and let off the throttle a bit...

That's what I do....she turns right in.

JakeR1 · 02-05-2007, 11:12 PM

I always look deeper in, maybe back off the throttle just a little.

Dissident · 02-06-2007, 06:55 AM

I'm no pro, but countersteer for sure. I wouldn't let off the throttle as that's going to shift weight forward when you are already asking more from the front tire and reducing your lean angle (both of which aren't helped by les throttle).

I'd say if anything on the throttle, roll it on, or at least stay even steady until you get to the apex and then roll on like you normally would.

Cyanide41 · 02-06-2007, 06:58 AM

Lean harder, more throttle. I would definately counter steer and NOT try to turn it in.

VeeJay · 02-06-2007, 08:45 AM

yah what these guys said...

or jam on the front brakes... 2 or 3 quick downshifts and ease out the clutch!!!

Cyanide41 · 02-06-2007, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeeJay

yah what these guys said...

or jam on the front brakes... 2 or 3 quick downshifts and ease out the clutch!!!

He said at full lean, not counter leaning! Besides, you do that before you lean...

lovinmyf4i · 02-06-2007, 03:30 PM

Definitely far from a pro... but I'd add more countersteer and definitely NOT let off the throttle.

R4Ltony · 02-06-2007, 04:29 PM

A little rear brake will help tighten your line too.

02-05-2007, 09:54 PM	#1
SPACEBOY Club Racer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,205 iTrader: (1) Rep Power: 6 (40)	Riding question for you pros I was recently asked a question that I couldn't answer because I don't know exactly what it is I do, I just do it and never stopped to think about what it was I did. So here is the question which seems simple enough. When at full lean in a corner and you need to correct to tighten up your line do you steer away from the turn (counter steer like you do to initialise the turn) or do you steer into the turn? For example if you are in a right hand turn and need to tighten your line, are you turning the bars left (away from the direction you are turning) or to the right, with the direction of the turn? I've never really stopped to think about what inputs I am giving the bars when riding so I was not 100% sure on the answer.

02-05-2007, 10:16 PM	#2
animal Posts: n/a	I'm not a pro(I don't get the $ like the real guys do) so everything below is technically worthless There are several ways, depending on the situation Let off the throttle a little push with your inside foot pull with your outside knee look through the turn more with your head relax your inside shoulder add a little countersteer trail the brakes a little It all really depends on your riding style and the exact situation... Last edited by animal : 02-05-2007 at 10:19 PM.

02-05-2007, 10:40 PM	#3
firehawk Know It All Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 319 iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 2 (43)	Trail the brakes a little and let off the throttle a bit... That's what I do....she turns right in. __________________ *EMA Bike of the Week* *My Albums......* *R71 in 2Wheel Tuner, March 2007*

02-05-2007, 11:12 PM	#4
JakeR1 Club Racer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: SD Bikes: '99 R1 "The Disintegrator" '07 R1, '04 R6 "Slow" Age: 25 Posts: 2,517 iTrader: (1) Rep Power: 5 (62)	I always look deeper in, maybe back off the throttle just a little. __________________ Just call me Matt... www.msf-usa.org

02-06-2007, 06:58 AM	#6
Cyanide41 Know It All Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 464 iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 4 (20)	Lean harder, more throttle. I would definately counter steer and NOT try to turn it in. __________________ ..::JAMES::..

02-06-2007, 06:55 AM	#5
Dissident Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 331 iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 0 (45)	I'm no pro, but countersteer for sure. I wouldn't let off the throttle as that's going to shift weight forward when you are already asking more from the front tire and reducing your lean angle (both of which aren't helped by les throttle). I'd say if anything on the throttle, roll it on, or at least stay even steady until you get to the apex and then roll on like you normally would.

02-06-2007, 08:45 AM	#7
VeeJay Squid Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 30 Posts: 108 iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 4 (13)	yah what these guys said... or jam on the front brakes... 2 or 3 quick downshifts and ease out the clutch!!! __________________ STTARS #323 WERA #323 - 06 Husqvarna SM450R - - 99 Husqvarna CR125 - - 88 Yamaha YSR 200cc -

02-06-2007, 03:30 PM	#9
lovinmyf4i Club Racer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Bikes: '07 Triumph Daytona 675; '01 Yamaha R6 (track bike) Age: 26 Posts: 2,245 iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 5 (58)	Definitely far from a pro... but I'd add more countersteer and definitely NOT let off the throttle. __________________ *-Chip* "Word to your momz, I came to drop bombz" '07 Triumph Daytona 675 (street) - '01 Yamaha R6 (track)

02-06-2007, 04:29 PM	#10
R4Ltony Know It All Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Escondido Bikes: '02 GSXR750, '69 CL175 Age: 36 Posts: 319 iTrader: (0) Rep Power: 2 (15)	A little rear brake will help tighten your line too.

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